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Polanski defenders and rape baiting

I am tired of how too many persons end their arguments against freedom for Polanski with comments/questions of the following genre.

‘If you had a 13 year old daughter who was raped, would you just let it go?  Allow the rapist to go free? Rape is rape.’

“Rape is rape” but rape is not rape.  One rape does not equal another rape and one rapist does not equal another rapist, etc., etc. It never has and never will. We are not dealing with robots in the courtroom- one could also say that one judge or lawyer does not equal another judge or lawyer.

But when Polanski is seen as not being treated like another accused criminal, people go wild. A case can be made for Polanski having more lenient treatment than others. Of course, too many readers, not all, see defenders of Polanski as just rape apologists- end of discussion for them.

Or I can say that we are not seeing celebrity justice here but rather celebrity injustice.

Or I can say how about laying off Polanski with all the degrading rhetoric when  you know both his wife was murdered and mutilated by the Manson gang and his mother was murdered by the Nazi gang. Should a person who has survived such atrocities be treated like any other person? Or really getting into the absurd should Polanski be treated like any other person whose wife and mother was murdered?

Bottom line just for Polanski- justice for Polanski is letting him go now. Justice for Ms. Gemier is to let him go now.

Such, of course, has no implications for other so-called similar cases.  And even referring to similar cases here is problematic.

And what I would want as a father of a 13 year old daughter who had sex with Polanski after the daughter’s mother gave permission for her to go off somewhere to be photographed by a celebrity? I can’t answer the question, an inane and irrelevant question.

Enough is enough. Polanski has suffered and suffered and suffered…

January 9, 2010 - Posted by | rape, Roman Polanski, sex, sexual politics

5 Comments »

  1. Maybe we should just counter-argue that by asking: what would ‘they’ do if some teen accused them of all that and you know you didn’t do any of it. Especially after medical evidence and others’ statements don’t support her claims and a plea bargain is struck for the in fact highest count of unlawful sex, but then the judge has no intentions to honour that agreement, which potentially could send you down for fifty years, and he decides to do just that 2x while everyone concerned wants you released including the prosecution, after your own counsel left you in the dark as to just how many years you could expect, and the judge then is removed for unethical misconduct and racism, and the only way to escape this injustice to end up with violent offenders for the rest of your life is to flee the courts and country.

    That’s what happened to Polanski – and if he’s been made an ugly example of by the corrupt US ‘justice system’ having failed this case since three decades to correct any of it, what chances do nobodies stand if he’s finally being lynch mobbed by those who think it’s perfectly fine to deny him any fair defence, behaving worse than what he ever did.

    Comment by Novalis Lore | January 10, 2010 | Reply

  2. I’ll relate a story I read and heard on Russian actress/model Olga Kurylenko (“Hitman” and “Quantum of Solace”). While in Russia, standing in a food line with her mother, a man noticed her and wanted to photograph her. He said he was an ‘agent’, however, given the Russian underground trade in sex slaves to Thailand and other places, Mrs. Kurylenko (Olga’s mother) refused to believe that this guy was on the up-and-up. So she decided to accompany Olga to this ‘meeting’. It turned out that he was in fact, a bonafide photographer with international connections into the modeling business. Olga, with her mother by her side, signed the contract and lo and behold, she’s a model.

    The reason I’m telling this story? Well ever since that day until Olga turned 21, Mrs. Kurylenko accompanied Olga wherever she went, all over the world, no matter where it was. As a Russian scientist, Mrs. Kurylenko knew the money Olga was making was significant and could make a difference as to her daughter’s future. The one thing that Mrs. Kurylenko didn’t do, was allow Olga to go off on her own with anyone until she came of age.

    How does this relate to Roman and his story? Plenty. I still say, how much of this whole thing is to be blamed solely on the mother? All of it. What mother allows their young daughter to go off with a man known for his proclivities for liking young-er women? Only a mother who plainly has an ulterior motive. As a woman, I have the right to say this. I have the right to question where Mrs. Gailey’s ethics were. I don’t believe in morals. They’re for those who ascribe to some kind of religious system of believe. I don’t. I’m more in line of a left-of-liberal leaning humanist. While I agree with the fact that as sexual beings we should be able to do whatever we want in terms of our bedrooms, I also believe that there should be an effort to protrect those who may be vulnerable in our culture. But in this case, there was no ‘vulnerable’ little creature to protect. And anyone who doesn’t understand that Geimer was already sexually mature, don’t see the larger picture. And for those who think that it’s ‘okay’ to state things like “if it where your 13 year-old daughter, you’d think differently…” They’re just blowing shit up their own asses. If I had a 13 year-old daughter, I certainly would not be sending her off with someone I didn’t even know that well. Like Olga Kurylenko, I would want to be there to protect my daughter, not send her off to fend for herself.

    In a culture that embraces the absurd and the sick, like the American’s do (I’m Canadian), I think it’s ridiculous that most of the condemnation is coming from the US. They’re professing to be this ‘hard-done-by’ nation, yet they love ruling over the world when it comes to global law. And Roman Polanski is not a whipping boy for all that is wrong with the US. Their lawmakers are. And considering that they have worse REAL pedophiles within their own government like those of the C-Street band who believe it’s perectly okay to rape a six year-old and confess it and have it called a ‘power enhancing experience’, but to break with their bretheren is punishable by death, that’s whacked up to me.

    Comment by Samskara | January 10, 2010 | Reply

  3. These crimes are minimized beacuse they are so common. The people who scream the loudest sticking up for the poor victimized pedophiles and sex offenders are offenders themselves, at some point in their history, I strongly suspect. There’s also a sort of infantile tendency to “pile on” victims, pick on them further, which is basically the behavior of a four year old bully at the playground. Something to do with arrested development.

    Comment by argod | August 30, 2010 | Reply


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